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Help on how to use Employee Training template

Last post 07-22-2008 8:14 AM by andychannelle. 9 replies.
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  • 10-17-2007 2:37 AM

    • naijacoder
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    • Joined on 07-10-2007
    • Melbourne , Australia

    Help on how to use Employee Training template

    I installed the template and decided to go through it and see what it offers... I added a new course thats good. bUt when i go back to my first page where it has all the webparts : Courses i have attended,Courses i am attending etc.. i get to see nothing.. Also where can i assign students to courses? I logged in as another user and registered to the new course i created. Logged in back as that user all the webparts are blank.. No data !! Is there any where were you can read how to set it up.. Thanks in Advance
  • 10-17-2007 9:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Help on how to use Employee Training template

    I have demoed this template numerous times... downloading, installing from scratch and implementing. I haven't ever seen the problem you describe.

    Where did you get the template?

    Mark
    EndUseSharePoint.com

     

    Mark Miller, Founder and Editor
    Website: www.EndUserSharePoint.com
    My Motto: No GeekSpeak
  • 10-17-2007 2:30 PM In reply to

    Re: Help on how to use Employee Training template

    Here's another problem I've been trying to diagnose for months. My users can register without a hitch -- however, if they attempt to delete their registration they are redirected to an access denied page.

    I have the users added to a group that has contribute rights to the site. I have checked to make sure permissions are inherited on each list involved in the site so that they can work with the items. However, they still are redirected. I can't replicate the problem with my account (but then again, I am site collection admin). I know this is probably a permissions error, but I'm not sure where to check. Ever seen this?

  • 10-17-2007 8:59 PM In reply to

    • naijacoder
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    • Joined on 07-10-2007
    • Melbourne , Australia

    Re: Help on how to use Employee Training template

    Mark thanks for the response.
    But the thing is after addiing some courses etc as i explained in my earlier POST nothing appeared under the webparts.
    I later decided to plug into shareppint designer to see whats going on and bingo there were all with errors
    "Error ocurred during a call to property or method FormatDateTime". Did you get these errors?
    I later notice that the Add XSL Filtering was checked in the filter criteria of the webpart "Courses i have taught" etc...

    And in there was a FrmatDateTime.When i unchecked the Add XSL filtering it did work.

    I could be glad if you can let me know what filtering Criteria you have for the Courses i have taught,
    Courses i have attended,Courses i am teaching and Courses i am attending webparts..

    Thanks in advance

     

  • 10-17-2007 10:36 PM In reply to

    Re: Help on how to use Employee Training template

    Chris Quick:

    Here's another problem I've been trying to diagnose for months. My users can register without a hitch -- however, if they attempt to delete their registration they are redirected to an access denied page. Ever seen this?

    Nope, but that doesn't mean much. It looks like Paul Gavin is really digging into that template. Let's check with him and see what he's got to say. I'll put a comment on his blog and see if he'll move over here.

    Update: I left a comment on Paul's site.

    Mark Miller, Founder and Editor
    Website: www.EndUserSharePoint.com
    My Motto: No GeekSpeak
  • 10-18-2007 7:28 AM In reply to

    • naijacoder
    • Top 25 Contributor
    • Joined on 07-10-2007
    • Melbourne , Australia

    Re: Help on how to use Employee Training template

    Good on  you Mike. I also hope i get some useful thoughts from Paul's blog.
    Also why do users get access denied when they want to register for a course.Do users need contribute access to register for a course?

    Any thoughts on my questions?

  • 10-18-2007 10:20 AM In reply to

    • pagalvin
    • Top 10 Contributor
    • Joined on 09-08-2007
    • New Jersey, USA

    Re: Help on how to use Employee Training template

     

    Hi, all. 

    We found that security was "troubling".  You do, indeed, need to give more access than you would want.  It boils down to the fact that total available seats counter must be modified by people who register or de-register for a course.  In order to enable that, people need read/write access to the course itself.  That, unfortunately, gives them the ability to change the course, which does not excite the course manager, but is manageable.

     

    We set up two permission levels.  We named the first "IT Course Taker - Register for Courses" with list permissions:

     

    - Edit Items

    - Add Items

    - Delete Items

    - View Items

    - Create Alerts

    - View Application Pages

     

    Site permissions:
    - View Pages
    - Open.

     

    We associated this permission with the task list: "Registrations"

     

     

    The second was "IT Course Taker -- course updates" with permissions:

      • Edit items
      • View Items
      • Create alerts
      • View application pages

    Site permissions:

      • View pages
      • Open

     

    We created a group called "Training Site Visitors" whose members are "all authenticated users" and then gave that group privileges for these lists:

    Courses: IT Course Taker -- course updates

    Registrations: IT Course Taker - Register for courses

    Past Registrations: Both perms.

     

    I think I covered it all.  Let me know how you all make out.

     

    Paul J. Galvin
    SharePoint Solution Architect
    Conchango
  • 10-18-2007 2:07 PM In reply to

    Re: Help on how to use Employee Training template

    pagalvin:
     

     

    We found that security was "troubling".  You do, indeed, need to give more access than you would want.  It boils down to the fact that total available seats counter must be modified by people who register or de-register for a course.  In order to enable that, people need read/write access to the course itself.  That, unfortunately, gives them the ability to change the course, which does not excite the course manager, but is manageable.

    Yes, security on this template is very troubling. That's why we have undertaken the task of creating our own template. This one gave us some excellent direction, but it leaves much to be desired. Especially if your have several sessions of the same course that use the same materials. It results in multiple copies of the same document -- which is what SharePoint is supposed to help minimize!

  • 10-19-2007 12:38 AM In reply to

    • naijacoder
    • Top 25 Contributor
    • Joined on 07-10-2007
    • Melbourne , Australia

    Re: Help on how to use Employee Training template

    Paul nice meeting you again here(We use to exchange post on the microsoft sharepoint forum siteBig Smile)
    Thanks for the detailed explaination.
    One thing i noticed though is if i change the regional settings locale to English(Australia) and Time zone to GMT Sydney,Canberra  the training template on the site..
    I can't get to add a new courseEmbarrassed.It keeps saying "The data source control failed to execute the insert command"
    Sure there are some issues with date issues especially with formatting as i stated in my earlier post.
    Let me know if you know more about this
    Thanks
    Patrick

  • 07-22-2008 8:14 AM In reply to

    Re: Help on how to use Employee Training template

     Hi

    I've had a crack at this and I'm still getting the edit/delete option when users log in. Perhaps I'm not doing the "We associated this permission with the task list: "Registrations"". Could you give me a little more information?

     Thanks

    Andy

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